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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Antares 531
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:37
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:11:52 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:23:37 -0500, Antares 531
><gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:14:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>>wrote:
>>
(snip)
>>>
>>>I thought we were talking religion..
>>>
>>The Word of God is NOT in disagreement with any reliable scientific
>>knowledge. The confusion on this is caused by the way The Word of God
>>was given to humans. 
>
>Then the Bible is not the Word of God.
>
My apology. I worded my response a bit poorly. The confusion on this
is/was caused by the way people misinterpret The Word of God, as it
was given to humans. If one tries to understand The Word of God with a
carnal mind-set, it is not likely that this person will misinterpret
it.
>
>>The Word of God had to be given to us such that those primitive people
>>could grasp the basic meaning, and also pass the information along
>>from generation to generation among illiterate people, with little
>>drift. Allegories, parables, similes, etc., are the way this was
>>achieved.
>
>Tell that to the Christians today who worship the Bible.
>
I quite agree, there are many who think of themselves as Christians,
who fail miserably in interpreting The Word of God. But, as Jesus
said, "Those who are not against us are with us."
>
>>Also, The Word of God had to be given to those early humans such that
>>they would have the same advantages that we have, today. That is, no
>>favoritism was shown by presenting the information in a form that only
>>a modern scientifically educated person could understand.   Gordon
>
>Please point to anything in Genesis that is demonstrably correct.

In the beginning, God created the Heavens (multiverse) and the Earth
(this perceivable universe). And this perceivable universe was without
form and void (it had neither form nor void. It was just a point). 

Then the big bang occurred and this perceivable universe was under
way. But, there was no light, initially. It was just a quark soup with
no source of photons.

And so on through the whole sequence......

Gordon
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