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Article #13382Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:01
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:01
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:1b978aa3-9206-4e7f-96e0-3fc23af80b9e@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... On Jul 11, 8:03 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 11, 12:24 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Jul 11, 6:50 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 8, 1:20?pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: > > > > > >>rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > >>>Well, all you are doing is saying that God is guilty of > > > > > >>>murder every time a natural death occurs. ?I do not > > > > > >>>think you will get far with that idea. > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > >>Assuming that you choose to clarify what you are trying to > > > > > >>say, thanks in advance. > > > > > > Well, according to the Bible, natural events are controlled > > > > > > by humans on the earth. > > > > > > If I take this as the clarification I asked for, of what > > > > > you mean by "natural death" (which I think most people > > > > > would consider a death that is not caused by humans, > > > > > not cause by diseases, not caused by anything identifiable), > > > > > then I suppose you are saying that no deaths are > > > > > natural deaths. Do I understand you properly? > > > > > > If this is what you mean, then you shouldn't be > > > > > surprised if others have difficulties understanding you. > > > > > > > If the people obey God's > > > > > > commandments, they prosper in the land, the elements are > > > > > > tempered in their favor, and their lives are safe an > > > > > > protected by heaven. This does not happen very often. > > > > > > We know that in the last days, wickedness on earth > > > > > > will be greater than at any other time in the history > > > > > > of earth. So we cannot expect favorable conditions. > > > > > > The choice to have things this way was not God's. > > > > > > It was made by men who reject God. If the people in > > > > > > Noah's day had listened to Noah, there would have been > > > > > > no flood. So how do you figure it was God's faullt? > > > > > > You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for > > > > > anything. That seems to fit well with my own position, > > > > > although we do arrive there from very different > > > > > directions. > > > > > > Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet. > > > > > > Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when > > > > > you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God > > > > > is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is > > > > > responsible for everything. > > > > > > There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe > > > > > you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for > > > > > the conscience? > > > > > > Jim Burns > > > > > Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God should be > > > > indicted for murder because natural deaths occur. Which court do you > > > > plan to file that case in? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > Wait a minute, you only include natural death, what about the sins and > > > deaths caused by your god? > > > All must be filed in our human court, and you must drag your god to > > > the criminal court, OK?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > It already happened. He was sentenced to death. So what do you > > think, you are going to do it again? > > Robert B. Winn > > Ah, so he was dead as a human, like modern criminal die of lethal > injection. > So, he was no god, right?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Wrong. He had power to lay down his life. He had power to take it up again. He was resurrected three days after he was crucified. ========================================= And Harry Potter can fly on a broomstick to play quiditch. Makes as much sense as your wholly babble stories. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!ramfeed1.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams!news.ams.newshosting.com!npeersf02.ams!newsfe27.ams2.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <6d90ncF1ev56U1@mid.individual.net> <1215367629.1635.4@proxy01.news.clara.net> <8b1223f1-9281-4b80-9157-b3b335a16970@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <6dd09hF1vn5vU1@mid.individual.net> <m2l274hcf7piabs4fsk1qgu5u647e04m4g@4ax.com> <57e87084-5cdd-4245-a1cb-821fadc2b3ab@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <71537499bhcfiqlvoc4mcth690geg6hrps@4ax.com> <bef47130-5ab2-42ef-9c1b-ad270e120351@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <4873CC0F.9020803@osu.edu> <9be8380a-3a4f-4748-9f03-c7f57bedd527@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <4876876D.2070702@osu.edu> <86472cec-7b84-45e3-83fd-c0d80d7b23f3@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <5fbdd7e8-7dfd-4788-910b-8bb575745ab5@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <c1f05200-3a21-424c-b958-6e33fcb6cf0b@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <b574f099-5985-44de-8282-2e696ba6ad67@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1b978aa3-9206-4e7f-96e0-3fc23af80b9e@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 104 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080712-1, 12/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <vBbek.14333$Zm1.9318@newsfe27.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe27.ams2 1215907291 82.20.115.204 (Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:01:31 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:01:31 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:01:19 +0100