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Article #13385Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:17
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:17
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:9bf287b3-1c33-4f81-807b-0dca9e2fb400@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jul 11, 7:27 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 11, 12:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 4:46?pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:153baae9-4d0d-4534-8328-df5e2bc3af2f@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jul 10, 6:40?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:38913d89-3357-4b6f-bb31-0f96afd06bc8@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Jul 9, 4:51?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:912d9182-3778-4b3d-8e07-d1bb05ec37c6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:46?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > > Jesus told Judas at the last supper that he knew he was going to > > > > > betray ?him. ? He also told John that Judas was going to betray > > > > > him. > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > And he acquiesced in the betrayal. > > > > > In other words, he gave Judas his blessing. > > > > > No he did not give Judas his blessing. ?He told him that he was not > > > > going to stop him from carrying out the betrayal. > > > > > ========== > > > > > Which is effectively an endorsement. > > > > He could have stopped this at any time. > > > > He did not. > > > > He did not stop Judas because Jesus Christ gave Judas his agency, the > > > same as everyone else. ?He did not need to stop Judas because in a > > > short time he and three of his apostles would go to the Garden of > > > Gethsemane and he would take upon himself the sins of the world, > > > completing his work on earth. > > > > =========== > > > > ... none of which would have happened but for Judas. > > > > He wouldn't even have had to stop Judas, merely avoid his presence or > > > change > > > his travel plans. > > > Fact is, he had a death wish. > > > He was gagging for the martyr's death.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Jesus Christ was not just a tourist on this earth the way you are. > > He had a work to do. > > Robert B. Winn > > Yes, all of us travel through this earth and leave behind our next > generation. > And you mighty Jesus luckily could not have left any one else > behind...since his own will not show any god-like power which will > negate his god status.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, explain your idea to Jesus Christ when he returns. ========================================== Well, explain your idea to Harry Potter. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!ramfeed1.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams!news.ams.newshosting.com!npeersf01.ams!newsfe27.ams2.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <6cuh4dF3houn9U1@mid.individual.net> <48715a24$1@clear.net.nz> <c9e12c04-ba04-427e-a932-952b9c14730d@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6dea67F25i03U1@mid.individual.net> <00c301e1-b58f-4d3d-8fd4-deb88ca5be9c@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <6dg2dmF2e9osU1@mid.individual.net> <wuadnQdHl4vUtu7VnZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com> <6dh2dbF2fn1kU1@mid.individual.net> <912d9182-3778-4b3d-8e07-d1bb05ec37c6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6djn71F2tkrpU1@mid.individual.net> <38913d89-3357-4b6f-bb31-0f96afd06bc8@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <6dmhu3F35affU1@mid.individual.net> <153baae9-4d0d-4534-8328-df5e2bc3af2f@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <6dnle7F3hkmqU1@mid.individual.net> <f7f19f17-719f-4850-8073-4e27768ce708@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <3918b47b-965d-4258-97ab-535aa747c9c0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <9bf287b3-1c33-4f81-807b-0dca9e2fb400@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 84 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080712-1, 12/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <yQbek.14337$Zm1.8553@newsfe27.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe27.ams2 1215908254 82.20.115.204 (Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:17:34 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:17:34 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:17:23 +0100