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Article #13424Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:47
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:47
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On Jul 11, 4:22�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:f7f19f17-719f-4850-8073-4e27768ce708@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 10, 4:46?pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:153baae9-4d0d-4534-8328-df5e2bc3af2f@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > On Jul 10, 6:40?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:38913d89-3357-4b6f-bb31-0f96afd06bc8@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jul 9, 4:51?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:912d9182-3778-4b3d-8e07-d1bb05ec37c6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Jul 8, 4:46?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > Jesus told Judas at the last supper that he knew he was going to > > > > betray ?him. ? He also told John that Judas was going to betray him. > > > > > ========= > > > > > And he acquiesced in the betrayal. > > > > In other words, he gave Judas his blessing. > > > > No he did not give Judas his blessing. ?He told him that he was not > > > going to stop him from carrying out the betrayal. > > > > ========== > > > > Which is effectively an endorsement. > > > He could have stopped this at any time. > > > He did not. > > > He did not stop Judas because Jesus Christ gave Judas his agency, the > > same as everyone else. ?He did not need to stop Judas because in a > > short time he and three of his apostles would go to the Garden of > > Gethsemane and he would take upon himself the sins of the world, > > completing his work on earth. > > > =========== > > > ... none of which would have happened but for Judas. > > > He wouldn't even have had to stop Judas, merely avoid his presence or > > change > > his travel plans. > > Fact is, he had a death wish. > > He was gagging for the martyr's death.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Jesus Christ was not just a tourist on this earth the way you are. > He had a work to do. > ================================= > > The pay was terrible and the pension scheme was worse :-) > > Smiler, Unlike an athiest, the goal of Jesus Christ in his earthly life was not to obtain money. In fact, Jesus Christ said that the love of money was the root of all evil. Robert B. Winn
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