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On Jul 11, 7:53 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 11, 12:19 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 10, 8:12 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On Jul 11, 6:19 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 9, 8:35�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > > > On Jul 9, 8:59 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:> On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:46 +0100, The Loan Arranger
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> > > > > > <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > >> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean �that God
> > > > > > >> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place.
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> > > > > > >You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have chafed.
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> > > > > > >TLA
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> > > > > > Read Job 1 & 2 for some allegorical information on this. God agreed to
> > > > > > back off and let Satan run his agenda for a while, the only
> > > > > > restriction being that Satan could not destroy the entire creation.
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> > > > > Wow, you are now telling every one here that satan is another type of
> > > > > god, and that he lives with god?
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> > > > > > So, yes, Satan does initiate some programs that God doesn't like, but
> > > > > > God permits Satan to continue his agenda. The purpose being that
> > > > > > during this process we will all learn enough about sin and rebellion
> > > > > > to assure God that none of us will ever want to go back and explore it
> > > > > > any further, once we've been granted immortality and absolute
> > > > > > sovereignty. "Experience is the best teacher." to put it in street
> > > > > > vernacular. �Gordon
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> > > > > If satan existed, then of course devil and others are also there. And
> > > > > they are all god, otherwise, how can they be staying with god.
> > > > > In fact you are advocating many god here and how do you know satan is
> > > > > not the good one and jesus the bad one; since there is no book for
> > > > > satan?
> > > > > Come to think of it, the bible that glorifies jesus did contain very
> > > > > evil teaching and full of nonsense.
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> > > > Well, I would say that since you do not believe the Bible, you will
> > > > learn from your own experience which one is good and which one is
> > > > evil.
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > I just want to clarify what you had said.
> > > You are telling every body here that satan and a lot of others lived
> > > with your god who allow others to do some work for him.
> > > Am I right that your god is not as powerful as you wish?
> > > And that satan is not evil, but another god?- Hide quoted text -
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> > Satan is totally evil.  Satan will not be saved.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> You had said that your god permitted satan to initiate some program.
> By this, I concluded that:
> 1)> Satan is another god, staying with your god.
> 2)> Satan's program was permitted, therefore good.
> 3)> Satan was not evil and lived with your god, or else your god had
> no power.
> 4)> Being another god, Satan needs to be saved?
> You have been told not to evade a direct question. Is it so difficult
> to admit that you can't answer, instead of spewing nonsense?- Hide quoted text -
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Satan is an evil spirit.  He will not be saved.  Neither will his
followers.
Robert B. Winn