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Article #13472Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:36
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:36
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On Jul 12, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 11, 7:27 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 12:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 10, 4:46�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:153baae9-4d0d-4534-8328-df5e2bc3af2f@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Jul 10, 6:40?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:38913d89-3357-4b6f-bb31-0f96afd06bc8@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Jul 9, 4:51?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > > >news:912d9182-3778-4b3d-8e07-d1bb05ec37c6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:46?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Jesus told Judas at the last supper that he knew he was going to > > > > > > betray ?him. ? He also told John that Judas was going to betray him. > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > And he acquiesced in the betrayal. > > > > > > In other words, he gave Judas his blessing. > > > > > > No he did not give Judas his blessing. ?He told him that he was not > > > > > going to stop him from carrying out the betrayal. > > > > > > ========== > > > > > > Which is effectively an endorsement. > > > > > He could have stopped this at any time. > > > > > He did not. > > > > > He did not stop Judas because Jesus Christ gave Judas his agency, the > > > > same as everyone else. �He did not need to stop Judas because in a > > > > short time he and three of his apostles would go to the Garden of > > > > Gethsemane and he would take upon himself the sins of the world, > > > > completing his work on earth. > > > > > =========== > > > > > ... none of which would have happened but for Judas. > > > > > He wouldn't even have had to stop Judas, merely avoid his presence or change > > > > his travel plans. > > > > Fact is, he had a death wish. > > > > He was gagging for the martyr's death.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Jesus Christ was not just a tourist on this earth the way you are. > > > He had a work to do. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > Yes, all of us travel through this earth and leave behind our next > > generation. > > And you mighty Jesus luckily could not have left any one else > > behind...since his own will not show any god-like power which will > > negate his god status.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well, explain your idea to Jesus Christ when he returns. > Robert B. Winn No need, I will explain to him now. But since he is only your god, you have to summon him here. Oh, can't? Why not? Sleeping? Or may be he has to travel long distance over the edge of universe to report to another god, or the ruler of god kingdom? (Any idea how he travel...by UFO, teletransport, fly....?)
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