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Article #13485Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:17
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:17
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Antares 531 wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:15:08 -0700, ben_dolan_III@reet.com (Ben Dolan) > wrote: > >> Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote: >> >>>>> When I lived in Florida a few years back, I arrived home one evening >>>>> just after sundown and saw a very large alligator slithering across >>>>> our front lawn. I was afraid to get close to the beast but after it >>>>> began moving away I parked the car and went inside to tell my wife >>>>> about this alligator. >>>>> >>>>> We both came back out to look at the beast but it was gone and we >>>>> could find no trace of it. I had ample "evidence" that an alligator >>>>> had slithered across our front lawn, but I could not transfer this >>>>> evidence. My wife could either reject my claim or accept it on faith. >>>>> >>>> As you said, a claim, but not evidence. >>>> >>> There was evidence for me, but no transferable evidence. My point was >>> that there can be, and often is evidence that isn't transferable. >> But there's plenty of evidence that alligators live in Florida, isn't >> there? So your claim is completely reasonable based on considerable >> supporting evidence. If your claim was that the baby Jesus had slithered >> across your front lawn, then that would be a different matter >> altogether, now wouldn't it? Believing you saw an alligator on your >> lawn isn't purely a matter of faith, but believing you saw Jesus would >> be (and Florida being a hotbed of religulous nutcases, I'm sure someone >> has made such a claim at some point.) Do you understand the difference? >> >> Give it a rest, Gordon, we've heard this particular line of argument >> countless times before. You're not covering any new ground, and you >> still haven't addressed the basic issue: there is no evidence for the >> existence of supernatural gods of any sort--reptilian or otherwise. >> > Ben, there is an ABUNDANCE of evidence that God exists, Which God though?
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