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Article #13520Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Ben Dolan
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:15
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:15
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Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote: > >> When I lived in Florida a few years back, I arrived home one evening > >> just after sundown and saw a very large alligator slithering across > >> our front lawn. I was afraid to get close to the beast but after it > >> began moving away I parked the car and went inside to tell my wife > >> about this alligator. > >> > >> We both came back out to look at the beast but it was gone and we > >> could find no trace of it. I had ample "evidence" that an alligator > >> had slithered across our front lawn, but I could not transfer this > >> evidence. My wife could either reject my claim or accept it on faith. > >> > > > >As you said, a claim, but not evidence. > > > There was evidence for me, but no transferable evidence. My point was > that there can be, and often is evidence that isn't transferable. But there's plenty of evidence that alligators live in Florida, isn't there? So your claim is completely reasonable based on considerable supporting evidence. If your claim was that the baby Jesus had slithered across your front lawn, then that would be a different matter altogether, now wouldn't it? Believing you saw an alligator on your lawn isn't purely a matter of faith, but believing you saw Jesus would be (and Florida being a hotbed of religulous nutcases, I'm sure someone has made such a claim at some point.) Do you understand the difference? Give it a rest, Gordon, we've heard this particular line of argument countless times before. You're not covering any new ground, and you still haven't addressed the basic issue: there is no evidence for the existence of supernatural gods of any sort--reptilian or otherwise. "For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son, that whosoever would believe in Him would believe any bullshit you threw at them..."
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