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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Antares 531
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:19
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:56:23 -0700, ben_dolan_III@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
wrote:

>Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> >> So, the evidence is presented in a very balanced way such that each of
>> >> us can assess it and go from there, making our own sovereign choice as
>> >> to whether we accept or reject God's existence.    Gordon
>> >
>> >I call bullshit, Gordon. Evidence is by definition transferable. What
>> >you're talking about isn't evidence, it's wishful thinking. You have
>> >accepted God's existence not on any evidence, but strictly on a deep
>> >rooted desire that it be true. Not the same thing at all.
>> >
>> Do you truly love your significant other? Do you have any evidence of
>> the deep running feelings you have for him/her? Is this evidence
>> transferable?  Gordon
>
>Do you really have to resort to this old chestnut that has been refuted
>so many times? Is that the best you can do to defend your boneheaded
>claims?
>
>Of course there's evidence for my deep feelings about my wife, but in
>case you've forgotten, we were talking about evidence of existence, not
>evidence of devotion. Not the same thing at all.
>
When I lived in Florida a few years back, I arrived home one evening
just after sundown and saw a very large alligator slithering across
our front lawn. I was afraid to get close to the beast but after it
began moving away I parked the car and went inside to tell my wife
about this alligator. 

We both came back out to look at the beast but it was gone and we
could find no trace of it. I had ample "evidence" that an alligator
had slithered across our front lawn, but I could not transfer this
evidence. My wife could either reject my claim or accept it on faith.

Gordon
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