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Article #1353Re: Converting the masses
From: Matt Austern
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:23
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:23
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In article <1992Jul22.193837.18095@sfu.ca> palmer@sfu.ca (Leigh Palmer) writes: > "Mass" as you use it > is equal to neither inertial nor gravitational mass as those terms apply to > any system more complicated than a particle at rest! There is, however, *nothing* which is equal to either inertial or gravitational mass for a relativistic body. That is: I define the inertial mass of a body as the "m" appearing in the equation F = m a, (1) and I define the gravitational mass of a body as the "m" appearing in the equation F = G m M / r^2. (2) I believe that these definitions are customary; I don't know what other meaning could be attached to the phrases "inertial mass" or "gravitational mass." Both of these equations are true in nonrelativistic physics, and neither equation is true in relativistic physics, no matter how "m" is defined. Relativistic gravity, in particular (i.e., general relativity) is much more complicated than Eq. (2) would suggest. Note that this fact has been known since the earliest days of relativistic physics. Around the turn of the century, some physicists used to write Eq. (1) using two different "masses," the "longitudinal mass" and the "transverse mass," which differ by a factor of gamma. For reasons that I do not understand, one of those "masses" was subsequently called the "relativistic mass," and the other one was dropped from the discussion. -- Matthew Austern I dreamt I was being followed by a roving band of (510) 644-2618 of young Republicans, all wearing the same suit, matt@physics.berkeley.edu taunting me and shouting, "Politically correct austern@theorm.lbl.gov multiculturist scum!"... They were going to make austern@lbl.bitnet me kiss Jesse Helms's picture when I woke up.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!agate!matt From: matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Converting the masses Date: 22 Jul 92 14:23:45 Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group) Lines: 37 Message-ID: <MATT.92Jul22142345@physics.berkeley.edu> References: <n0596t@ofa123.fidonet.org> <mcirvin.711489157@husc10> <9868@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> <1992Jul22.193837.18095@sfu.ca> Reply-To: matt@physics.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: palmer@sfu.ca's message of 22 Jul 92 19:38:37 GMT