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Article #13537Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:43
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:43
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"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in message news:svcd74drmbfg2imd9ssouvjmtndm07v3ke@4ax.com... > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:56:23 -0700, ben_dolan_III@reet.com (Ben Dolan) > wrote: > >>Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote: >> >>> >> So, the evidence is presented in a very balanced way such that each >>> >> of >>> >> us can assess it and go from there, making our own sovereign choice >>> >> as >>> >> to whether we accept or reject God's existence. Gordon >>> > >>> >I call bullshit, Gordon. Evidence is by definition transferable. What >>> >you're talking about isn't evidence, it's wishful thinking. You have >>> >accepted God's existence not on any evidence, but strictly on a deep >>> >rooted desire that it be true. Not the same thing at all. >>> > >>> Do you truly love your significant other? Do you have any evidence of >>> the deep running feelings you have for him/her? Is this evidence >>> transferable? Gordon >> >>Do you really have to resort to this old chestnut that has been refuted >>so many times? Is that the best you can do to defend your boneheaded >>claims? >> >>Of course there's evidence for my deep feelings about my wife, but in >>case you've forgotten, we were talking about evidence of existence, not >>evidence of devotion. Not the same thing at all. >> > When I lived in Florida a few years back, I arrived home one evening > just after sundown and saw a very large alligator slithering across > our front lawn. I was afraid to get close to the beast but after it > began moving away I parked the car and went inside to tell my wife > about this alligator. > > We both came back out to look at the beast but it was gone and we > could find no trace of it. I had ample "evidence" that an alligator > had slithered across our front lawn, but I could not transfer this > evidence. My wife could either reject my claim or accept it on faith. > As you said, a claim, but not evidence. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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