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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 8, 1:20�pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
>>rbwinn wrote:
>>
>>>Well, all you are doing is saying that God is guilty of
>>>murder every time a natural death occurs. �I do not
>>>think you will get far with that idea.

[...]
>>Assuming that you choose to clarify what you are trying to
>>say, thanks in advance.

> Well, according to the Bible, natural events are controlled
> by humans on the earth.

If I take this as the clarification I asked for, of what
you mean by "natural death" (which I think most people
would consider a death that is not caused by humans,
not cause by diseases, not caused by anything identifiable),
then I suppose you are saying that no deaths are
natural deaths. Do I understand you properly?

If this is what you mean, then you shouldn't be
surprised if others have difficulties understanding you.

>                          If the people obey God's
> commandments, they prosper in the land, the elements are
> tempered in their favor, and their lives are safe an
> protected by heaven.  This does not happen very often.
>     We know that in the last days, wickedness on earth
> will be greater than at any other time in the history
> of earth.  So we cannot expect favorable conditions.
>       The choice to have things this way was not God's.
> It was made by men who reject God.  If the people in
> Noah's day had listened to Noah, there would have been
> no flood.  So how do you figure it was God's faullt?

You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for
anything. That seems to fit well with my own position,
although we do arrive there from very different
directions.

Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet.

Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when
you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God
is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is
responsible for everything.

There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe
you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for
the conscience?

Jim Burns