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Article #13574Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:19
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:19
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On Jul 9, 8:35�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 9, 8:59 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:> On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:46 +0100, The Loan Arranger > > > <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > > >rbwinn wrote: > > >> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean �that God > > >> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place. > > > >You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have chafed. > > > >TLA > > > Read Job 1 & 2 for some allegorical information on this. God agreed to > > back off and let Satan run his agenda for a while, the only > > restriction being that Satan could not destroy the entire creation. > > Wow, you are now telling every one here that satan is another type of > god, and that he lives with god? > > > > > So, yes, Satan does initiate some programs that God doesn't like, but > > God permits Satan to continue his agenda. The purpose being that > > during this process we will all learn enough about sin and rebellion > > to assure God that none of us will ever want to go back and explore it > > any further, once we've been granted immortality and absolute > > sovereignty. "Experience is the best teacher." to put it in street > > vernacular. �Gordon > > If satan existed, then of course devil and others are also there. And > they are all god, otherwise, how can they be staying with god. > In fact you are advocating many god here and how do you know satan is > not the good one and jesus the bad one; since there is no book for > satan? > Come to think of it, the bible that glorifies jesus did contain very > evil teaching and full of nonsense. Well, I would say that since you do not believe the Bible, you will learn from your own experience which one is good and which one is evil. Robert B. Winn
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