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Article #13583Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: James Burns
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:50
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:50
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Antares 531 wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:56:23 -0700, ben_dolan_III@reet.com > (Ben Dolan) wrote: [...] >>Of course there's evidence for my deep feelings about my >>wife, but in case you've forgotten, we were talking about >>evidence of existence, not evidence of devotion. >>Not the same thing at all. [...] > Transferable in both cases? That was the question. > Is all evidence transferable? Gordon Non-transferable evidence makes as much sense as dehydrated water. Evidence is the common ground between two sides in a disagreement, the ground from which both move toward one side or the other. If something is not part of the beliefs common to both sides, then what is the point of mentioning it? Clearly what counts as evidence can vary wildly depending on how much in agreement. If Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton could argue about the nature of gravity, they might find so little in common between their points of view that they would be forced to start with statements like "The dial labeled 'VOLTS' reads 4.376." Two Republicans might disagree over whether President Clinton had Vince Foster killed, but be in agreement that Bill is evil. The evilness of Bill Clinton is evidence within their personal argument, even though it's easy to imagine other situations where it would be disputed -- and therefore not evidence. The only constant seems to be that evidence is common to both parties or, as you put it, transferable. Jim Burns
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