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On Jul 9, 7:50 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jul 8, 10:47 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> > On Jul 6, 11:06 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>> On Jul 6, 12:55 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Jul 5, 3:28 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>news:82172b99-aef0-45bd-b941-e2b2fdb67d4d@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 3:36 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 12:07 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>news:b5ef084b-b578-47aa-b9bf-1285e1588579@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >>>>>>>> What would you pay for it? I could whip one up for you. I'd make
> >> >>>>>>>> it with
> >> >>>>>>>> Judas' image, he gets such a bad rap for someone who was utterly
> >> >>>>>>>> vital
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> >> >>>>>>> Utterly vital? How was Judas Iscariot utterly vital?
> >> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >>>>>> Are you being deliberately dumb?
> >> >>>>>> No Judas- no crucifixion, no crucifixion - no sacrifice-, no
> >> >>>>>> sacrifice- no
> >> >>>>>> redemption from sin.
> >> >>>>>> I don't subscribe to your silly belief system but at least I could
> >> >>>>>> work that
> >> >>>>>> one out.
> >> >>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>> Steve O
> >> >>>>> Salvation is through Jesus Christ, not through Judas Iscariot.
> >> >>>>> Judas
> >> >>>>> is not going to do you any good.
> >> >>>> No Judas Iscariot, no salvation, because no dead saviour served up
> >> >>>> on a
> >> >>>> stick for Dad. So, I would've thought that Judas was an important
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> >> >>> Well, Judas thinks more like Satan than like God. Maybe that was why
> >> >>> you got confused.
> >> >> I didn't know you were so familiar with Satan as to know that.
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> >> >> The plot thickens..
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> >> > I don't have to be familiar with Satan to know that a plot to betray
> >> > Jesus Christ came from him, not God.
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> >> You mean your "god" didn't plan to provide "salvation"? It was a plot by
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> > Satan's plan was to kill Jesus Christ.   So Jesus Christ was
> > crucified.   He was resurrectred three days later.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Is this mainstream Mormon  doctrine or just your own spin on the matter?
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> Steve O
> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
> B.A.A.W.A.
> Convicted by Earthquack
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This is what happened.  If you do not know a particular church
teaching, what you can do is write to church headquarters in Salt Lake
City or go to the church website and ask the question.
Robert B. Winn