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Article #13631Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Loan Arranger
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:19
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:19
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 8, 1:46�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> >> One of the more interesting conclusions, by the way, is that although >> Christian prayer appeared somewhat efficacious, a number of other >> methods, some Pagan, some atheist (in the sense of having no worship >> element), worked equally well or better. > > Well, if you have to study it, then you do not have faith. How do you > get that Christian prayer appears somewhat efficacious when God > already said he is not going to answer any prayers made without > faith? I suggest that you read the paper in question before opining upon it. In the studies evaluating efficacy of Christian prayers, the prayers were conducted by Christian congregations who, we assume, have faith. > Are you sure that Satan is not leading you to your > conclusion? I believe God when he says he is not going to answer this > kind of prayer. No, the authors of the peer-reviewed paper published in one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world led me to that conclusion. Having examined the underlying data and confirmed their findings, I accept that their conclusions are sound. That's called the Scientific Method. You don't have to have a blind faith in it to make it work. You appear to be saying that God won't answer ANY kind of prayer, because if he won't even honour the requests of his own worshippers, then prayer's a waste of time. TLA
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