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On Jul 8, 1:20�pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > Well, all you are doing is saying that God is guilty of
> > murder every time a natural death occurs. �I do not
> > think you will get far with that idea.
>
> I have trouble thinking about "natural deaths" in connection
> with God. For humans, calling a death "natural" means no one
> did anything to bring it about. But doesn't Gospel assure us
> : Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of
> : them will fall to the ground apart from the will of
> : your Father. [Matthew 10:29]
> Insurance companies would probably call a natural death
> an "act of God". What might a death that was NOT God's
> will be like?
>
> Maybe you could clarify what you mean by "natural death"
> in the context of God's activity in the world, whatever
> that activity may be.
>
> First, what would you count as a life saved by God?
> Spin some scenarios. It doesn't matter (for once) about
> evidence that any of these scenarios has ever occurred.
> I'm just asking for your opinion.
>
> What would you count as definitely a God-caused death?
> Almost as important: what would you count as a death that
> was definitely NOT God-caused? Some possibilities:
> Drowning in Noah's flood? Drowning in any other flood?
> A lightning strike? A lightning strike from an empty sky?
> Cancer that did not receive a prayed-for miraculous remission?
> Execution by church members doing God's will?
>
> Assuming that you choose to clarify what you are trying to
> say, thanks in advance.
>
> Jim Burns

Well, according to the Bible, natural events are controlled by humans
on the earth.  If the people obey God's commandments, they prosper in
the land, the elements are tempered in their favor, and their lives
are safe an protected by heaven.  This does not happen very often.
    We know that in the last days, wickedness on earth will be greater
than at any other time in the history of earth.  So we cannot expect
favorable conditions.
      The choice to have things this way was not God's.  It was made
by men who reject God.  If the people in Noah's day had listened to
Noah, there would have been no flood.  So how do you figure it was
God's faullt?
Robert B. Winn