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Article #13663Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:32
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:32
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On Jul 8, 4:46�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > "The Loan Arranger" <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in messagenews:wuadnQdHl4vUtu7VnZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com... > > > Steve O wrote: > >> All we said was that, contrary to your claim that the crucifixion was the > >> work of the devil, the crucifixion was essential for the redemption of > >> sin, therefore Judas did the world a favour. > > > Until quite some time after the event, Judas was considered to have done > > Jesus a favour, by agreeing reluctantly to hand him over, according to > > Jesus's wishes. > > I remember that as something told to me at school, by the monks who ran the > school. > Something about some kind of request that was whispered into Judas's ear > during the Last Supper, apparently. > Not sure if this is part of mainstream Catholic doctrine or something they > just dreamt up. > > > > > It was only when the evolving church needed an antihero that Judas's role > > was recast from tragic hero to traitor. > > Looks like those monks were behind the times, then. > > -- > Steve O Jesus Christ told Judas at the last supper that he knew what he was going to do. Jesus told John at the last supper that Judas was going to betray him. Robert B. Winn
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