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On Jul 8, 6:44�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
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> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >>> On Jul 6, 9:42 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> > On Jul 6, 5:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> >>> On Jul 6, 11:02?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> My definition of sin was willful disobedience of God. ?Bearing
> >>>> >>>>> false
> >>>> >>>>> witness about me would fall under the category of willful
> >>>> >>>>> disobedience
> >>>> >>>>> of God.
> >>>> >>>> In that case you are totally guilty of that exact sin.
> >>>> >>>> We have already established by your own definitions that you are a
> >>>> >>>> sinful person (onkl Jesus is free of sin you said) , and your lack
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> >>>> >>>> charity excommnunicates you as a Christian. (you wont talk to God
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> >>>> >>>> anyones behalf..)
> >>>> >>>> I think you are in deep trouble, dude.
> >>>> >>> No, I am fine. I say a little prayer every once in a while about
> >>>> >>> atheists.
> >>>> >> That one ever get answered? ;-)- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>> > Well, I know one atheist who became a Christian.
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> >>>> Ah nice. I was just such a man. I eventually grew out of it though.
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> >>> Well, you were just an atheist working undercover.
> >>> If you were going back to atheism, you were never really a believer.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
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> >> Every single atheist in this newsgroup started out as an atheist. (so did
> >> every Christian too, for that matter)
> >> Some of us converted to Christianity from atheism, then back again.
> >> I have a two year old who is an atheist, he has absolutely no belief in
> >> God whatsoever.
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> > I'm not sure that counts, seeing as he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter
> > Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and the Monster Under The Bed.
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> Actually, he's also asantaist, abunnyist, afairyist and amonsterist too.
> He's only two years old, Alex, he doesn't even know what those things are
> yet, plus, we're very careful about what sort of fairy tales we tell him
> anyway.
> Besides, kids aren't dumb.
> Any parent could see that kids operate on two levels anyway.
> On one level, they like the fantasy/monster stories and enjoy being scared
> by them, and on another level they are fully aware that it's only make-
> believe.
> They're not stupid but they enjoy the exciting pretence of it all
> The only time it becomes stupid is when they carry that over to adulthood
> and start believing that the magic stories are real.
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> > IME, children are naturally credulous.
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> Naturally trusting, not credulous.
> There's a difference .
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> >We pick explanations that fit the available facts. �If our environment acts
> >as if Santa Claus is real and we have no evidence to doubt that assertion,
> >we believe.
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> It all depends on what Mom and Pop tell us, right?
> When we're telling them about Jack and the beanstalk, they know we're not
> being serious, but still go along with the story.
> The problem occurs when we tell them about Jesus walking on water and
> raising the dead, and they naturally assume we are being serious about that,
> because we always make the distinction either directly or indirectly between
> one magic story and the other.
> "Now forget about all of those silly magic stories we told you - here's some
> REAL magic stories"
> The Santa story is simply training wheels for the God story any way.
> It amazes me that at my daughters school, she can have science lessons one
> minute, where she is taught to examine facts using the scientific method,
> and in the next Religious Education lesson straight afterward, she is told
> to abandon any critical thinking skills and simply believe.
> Why does the education system insist on trying to confuse our children like
> that?
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> --
> Steve O
> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
> B.A.A.W.A.
> Convicted by Earthquack
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Atheists control the education system.  If they have problems in the
system they have devised, it is to increase their control over the
general population.
Robert B. Winn