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Article #13673Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:26
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:26
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Antares 531 wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:46 +0100, The Loan Arranger > <noone@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: >>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean that God >>> approved of it. It just meant it was going to take place. >> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have chafed. >> >> TLA >> > Read Job 1 & 2 for some allegorical information on this. God agreed to > back off and let Satan run his agenda for a while, the only > restriction being that Satan could not destroy the entire creation. > > So, yes, Satan does initiate some programs that God doesn't like, but > God permits Satan to continue his agenda. The purpose being that > during this process we will all learn enough about sin and rebellion > to assure God that none of us will ever want to go back and explore it > any further, once we've been granted immortality and absolute > sovereignty. "Experience is the best teacher." to put it in street > vernacular. Gordon Which suggests that god needs Satan to ensure his flawed creations achieve perfection. What a strange concept..obviously God isn't an intelligent designer, relying more on evolutionary development, QA and field testing to get his product right. Which puts him slightly lower then Microsoft in the ID stakes, and its not possible to get MUCH lower.
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