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Article #13692Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:21
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:21
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On Jul 8, 4:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: > > > On Jul 7, 9:01 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> My beef with religion, is it clings to the language and simplistic > >> worldviews of stone age people: re-visiting the Bible with modern > >> knowledge, one is suprised at how sophisticated it actually is. > > > Well, the written forms were laid down > > But the oral form goes WAY back. Which I did mention. > > > after the Greek peoples came > > out with a few gems like atoms, water displacement and so forth. > > Sadly I doubt your average Israeli peasant had heard of any of that. > No, but they were contemporary. So it wasn't even sophisticated by the measure of the times. For the time/place, yeah it was kinda OK for a semetic goat-herder, but realistically these are myths adopted by clergy from older civilisations' clergy. The goat-herders were just the dupes. Since that clergy thing got started anyway. And it's not created from a vacuum either. There's a fairly clear evolution of the religion from older religions and myths. Hell, judaism wasn't even monotheistic before (can't remember, but think it was about) 700BC. The jewish books weren't literally fixed until about the 11th century AD. In other words, they kept changing things to match what they now knew. THAT's a religion I could respect. If only they hadn't gone with the scripture idea. Al
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