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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:07
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 7, 3:48�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> BuddyThunder wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 6, 12:58 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> -
>>>> Well, look spirit up in the dictionary. �If you do not believe in
>>>> spirit, then there is no way to explain it to you.
>>> I looked it up and found lots of vague notions of intermediaries between
>>> body and soul. That kind of nonsense.
>>> So there is no meaningful definition of "spirit" in reality? You made a
>>> positive claim about my "spirit", then choosing to define it in terms of
>>> itself. A kind of "spirit is spirit, what's wrong with you" argument.
>>> I'm none the wiser as to what you're actually referring to.
>> The mediaeval understanding of spirit,was essentially what we today
>> would call the mind, as distinct and somewhat independent of, the body.
>> The concept of the 'objective observer' grew out of this particular
>> worldview. Science owes religious philosophy that much, at least.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Spirit could also be called intelligence.

Why not simply use "intelligence" then? It's a much less nebulous word. 
Intelligence is emergent from normal brain-activity (in many animals 
including humans) and doesn't seem to be supernatural at all.
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