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Article #13741Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:46
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:46
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"The Loan Arranger" <noone@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:wuadnQdHl4vUtu7VnZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com... > Steve O wrote: >> All we said was that, contrary to your claim that the crucifixion was the >> work of the devil, the crucifixion was essential for the redemption of >> sin, therefore Judas did the world a favour. > > Until quite some time after the event, Judas was considered to have done > Jesus a favour, by agreeing reluctantly to hand him over, according to > Jesus's wishes. I remember that as something told to me at school, by the monks who ran the school. Something about some kind of request that was whispered into Judas's ear during the Last Supper, apparently. Not sure if this is part of mainstream Catholic doctrine or something they just dreamt up. > > It was only when the evolving church needed an antihero that Judas's role > was recast from tragic hero to traitor. Looks like those monks were behind the times, then. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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