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Article #13743Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:55
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:55
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On Jul 7, 8:14 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 8:33 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:41 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 4, 8:37�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Jul 4, 11:32 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > > > > > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jul 4, 2:57 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > > > >> > On Jul 3, 4:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > >> >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > > > > > >> >> in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >> >>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > >> >> ... > > > > > > >> >>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an > > > > > >> >>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not > > > > > >> >>>> worth considering. > > > > > >> >>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. ?If you think He is > > > > > >> >>> not, ?go ahead and try to prove it. > > > > > >> >>> Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> >> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true. > > > > > > >> > Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get > > > > > >> > over the city wall at Lachish. > > > > > > >> So? I have built several earthen ramps. > > > > > >> Am I then God? > > > > > > >> > Atheists do not believe in the earthen ramp. > > > > > > >> well firstly that is false, because I do believe in earthen ramps, > > > > > >> having built many, and I am an atheist. > > > > > > >> And secondly what has the fact that �person B may or may not believe > > > > > >> statement X, have to do with the existence, or not, of personality Z? > > > > > > >God did not build the earthen ramp. �The Assyrian army did. �God would > > > > > >have preferred that they did not build it and had left the city of > > > > > >Lachish and its inhabitants alone. > > > > > > Are you saying that God was powerless to stop them? > > > > > The bible contains enormous mistakes to glorify god yet plainly > > > > telling us that god is a useless being. > > > > The early Jews who wrote it were not educated, or might be drunk. Yes, > > > > more drunk than wake.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Well, as you say, if you think God is a useless being, then you will > > > choose to be with the beings you think of as being useful, other > > > atheists. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > You do not realize that your bible has been projecting your god to be > > useless all the time? > > Just an example, Jesus, being the son of god, was not saved by the > > god? > > Another one, your god flooded the world to kill all human? > > What sort of god you think he is?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Where do you get that Jesus Christ was not saved. He was resurrected > after three days.in the tomb. > Robert B. Winn Really? That means he wasn't dead and they put him into a tomb? How long did he stay alive after that? Sure if he can be resurrected, he need not be dead on the cross in the first place and buried into a tomb, right? It really must be a show, a great magic show I guess. Try to go to Amazon where you can find lost Indian tribes. There if you fire a pistol at them, they would certainly think you are alien or god from outer space.
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