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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Smiler
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:39
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"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:59:50 +1200, BuddyThunder
> <nospam@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 6, 12:57 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> (snip)
>>
>>The Bible was very accurately transcribed - for humans. They did an
>>amazing job. Not a perfect job, there are lots of differences between
>>the early versions we have, but not bad for a bunch of people.
>>
>>It's the content that I find even less reliable though, that's what I
>>was driving at, and I think you know that.
>>
>>Much reported as history in the Bible simply never happened. No global
>>flood, no special creation, no exodus...
>>
> Few of those Biblical stories are to be taken literally. Most are
> allegory, parable, simile, etc., sometimes based upon an existing
> legend. The purpose was to make it possible for a mostly illiterate
> people to get the embedded meaning, retain the story, and pass it on
> from generation to generation with little drift.

You believe, not what the bible ACTUALLY says, but what you THINK it says.
How convenient for you that you can think it means whatever fits your 
beliefs on the day.
The next day, of course, you can believe it means something completely 
different, as suits the occasion.

>
> The flood was probably based upon the ancient stories about the
> flooding of the Mediterranean basin shortly after the last ice age
> ended. The Strait of Gibraltar was breached as the Atlantic ocean
> level raised. When this happened the whole Mediterranean basin was
> flooded in a very short time...like 40 days and 40 nights. The relics
> of those stone walls and buildings that were out in what is now the
> Mediterranean are still available for divers to see.

So you agree, the bible lies.

>
> The main point I'm making is that we should not get hung up on the
> literary form used in the Bible.

That is all there is. Anything else is reading between the lines to find any 
meaning you want from it = wishful thinking/mental masturbation.
If I read between the lines of a Harry Potter book, I bet I can find 
passages that (in my imagination) prove the existence of  magic and wizards 
that can fly on broomsticks. WTF does that prove, other than I have a vivid 
imagination and too much time on my hands.

> We can read it and interpret it just
> as effectively as those ancient people could. Neither of us has an
> advantage over the other.

Yep. You're both morons.

Smiler,
The godless one
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