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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#13767
From: Smiler
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:13
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"Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com> wrote in message 
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> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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>> On Jul 4, 9:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:2efb0043-fcce-424b-9881->
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>>> God has never commanded me to do anything at any time.
>>> I've never even met the guy.
>>> Therefore, I have never disobeyed him.
>>> As it is your belief that sin is when someone disobeys God, then I have
>>> never sinned.
>>> So does that mean I get to go to heaven?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve O
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>> No, atheists like you and Josef Stalin do not accept the atonement of
>> Christ for your sins.
>
> You have already claimed that I have committed no sin, because by your 
> definition, sin is the wilful disobedience of God
> I have never wilfully disobeyed God because I have never once received any 
> command, request or instruction from him.
> If I have never sinned, then I have no sins to atone for, therefore you 
> are wrong.
>
>> Therefore you have to pay the penalty for them
>> yourself.
>
> What sins?
> How can I pay a penalty for sins I have never committed?
>
> You haven't really thought this one out, have you?
> You are either going to have to disagree that your definition of sin is 
> wrong, or I have never committed a sin.
> Which one is it?
>

He appears to have run away.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279 
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