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Article #13767Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:13
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:13
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"Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com> wrote in message news:6d90ciF1e560U1@mid.individual.net... > > > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message > news:03bf56d3-b444-4a0c-998b-880bcd9a17d9@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 4, 9:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:2efb0043-fcce-424b-9881-> >>> > >>> >>> God has never commanded me to do anything at any time. >>> I've never even met the guy. >>> Therefore, I have never disobeyed him. >>> As it is your belief that sin is when someone disobeys God, then I have >>> never sinned. >>> So does that mean I get to go to heaven? >>> >>> -- >>> Steve O >> >> No, atheists like you and Josef Stalin do not accept the atonement of >> Christ for your sins. > > You have already claimed that I have committed no sin, because by your > definition, sin is the wilful disobedience of God > I have never wilfully disobeyed God because I have never once received any > command, request or instruction from him. > If I have never sinned, then I have no sins to atone for, therefore you > are wrong. > >> Therefore you have to pay the penalty for them >> yourself. > > What sins? > How can I pay a penalty for sins I have never committed? > > You haven't really thought this one out, have you? > You are either going to have to disagree that your definition of sin is > wrong, or I have never committed a sin. > Which one is it? > He appears to have run away. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!ramfeed1.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams!news.ams.newshosting.com!npeersf01.ams!newsfe20.ams2.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <48581d68$1@clear.net.nz> <6cuh4dF3houn9U1@mid.individual.net> <348e1c43-660e-47e1-a05f-d01e45fed2c3@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> <6cvhj7F3a89U1@mid.individual.net> <b9c4c4a2-ed86-4b04-b8a8-96c31e5d0076@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <6d25suFg1imU1@mid.individual.net> <d0006342-ae9e-4491-937f-762ecf238699@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <486c4bcc$1@clear.net.nz> <6d35k3Fjp5bU1@mid.individual.net> <f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <6d419fFidt3U1@mid.individual.net> <9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <6d59jgFusohU4@mid.individual.net> <df0410ce-edc2-4167-91a6-ed80e4318ccb@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <14203dca-5554-4b53-a802-d10de1074c27@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <2efb0043-fcce-424b-9881-40b9bc0edb23@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <6d71psF16l4lU1@mid.individual.net> <03bf56d3-b444-4a0c-998b-880bcd9a17d9@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <6d90ciF1e560U1@mid.individual.net> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 52 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080707-0, 07/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <6QBck.158896$P83.47927@newsfe20.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe20.ams2 1215490434 82.20.115.204 (Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:13:54 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:13:54 EDT Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 05:13:45 +0100