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Article #13837Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:32
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:32
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On Jul 7, 8:00 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 8:12 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Jul 4, 7:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 3, 10:59 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in > > > > > > > > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > > > > > > > > > > =========== > > > > > > > > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is > > > > > > > > > to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... > > > > > > > > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim > > > > > > > > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > > > > > > Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped > > > > > > > > ... or not, as the case may be. > > > > > > > > Well, there is no sin in heaven. Maybe that is why atheists do not > > > > > > > want to go there. > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge ! > > > > > > 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know there > > > > > > is no sin there? > > > > > > 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to > > > > > > heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been > > > > > cleansed of sin. All atheists I have conversed with have told me they > > > > > do not want to enter heaven. > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > #1. Yes, but a person cleansed of sin entering heaven can again commit > > > > sin, right? > > > > For this, your Jesus said nothing....how are you going to account > > > > for that? > > > > #2. Why would your Jesus allowed for sin to be existed in human, in > > > > the first place? > > > > #3. There is no heaven, why would atheists want to enter anything? > > > > If there is a heaven, it be;long to you loons, nothing to do with > > > > atheists. This is > > > > just like you don't simply allow an African to enter US to be its > > > > citizen, unless > > > > qualified or needed. > > > > I don't think you are capable to defend. Straight to the point, please.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Since atheists say they do not want to enter heaven, it is all > > > irrelevant. They will be given what they say they want. > > > Robert B. winn > > > I give a point blank question and most of the time you just evade. > > Why can't you answer each of the valid points? > > If you can't, at least call upon some of your loons to help. > > I guess, I will be disappointed.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Show me an atheist who wants to enter heaven, and I will answer your > questions. Otherwise, they are totally meaningless. It is like you > coming up to me on the street and saying, I do not like you, and I > will never enter your house, but I want to know everything you do. If > you do not want to enter, it is none of your business. > Robert B. Winn No, nobody would ever want to know everything you do. However, if you were to try to influence others or specifically children to believe in lies, then all of us will stop you. It's just like when you want to jump down a 10 storey building. it may not be our business to stop you. But if you try to take some children with you as well, then this become every body's business, not just the police.
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