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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 6, 4:26�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:59:50 +1200, BuddyThunder
>> <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in alt.atheism:
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>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 6, 12:57 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 8:37?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 11:32 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2:57 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth considering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. ?If you think He is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, ?go ahead and try to prove it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So? I have built several earthen ramps.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I then God?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists do not believe in the earthen ramp.
>>>>>>>>>>>> well firstly that is false, because I do believe in earthen ramps,
>>>>>>>>>>>> having built many, and I am an atheist.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And secondly what has the fact that ?person B may or may not believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement X, have to do with the existence, or not, of personality Z?
>>>>>>>>>>> God did not build the earthen ramp. ?The Assyrian army did. ?God would
>>>>>>>>>>> have preferred that they did not build it and had left the city of
>>>>>>>>>>> Lachish and its inhabitants alone.
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that God was powerless to stop them?
>>>>>>>>> The bible contains enormous mistakes to glorify god yet plainly
>>>>>>>>> telling us that god is a useless being.
>>>>>>>>> The early Jews who wrote it were not educated, or might be drunk. Yes,
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>>>>>>>> Well, as you say, if you think God is a useless being, then you will
>>>>>>>> choose to be with the beings you think of as being useful, other
>>>>>>>> atheists.
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>>>>>> Why does it depend on me? � The Bible is what it is. �If you do not
>>>>>> like the Bible, read something else.
>>>>> No answer? I just wanted to know how reliable you thought the Bible was.
>>>>> I know it to be full of errors and distortions, just wondered what your
>>>>> position on it was. You seem to think it better than other sacred texts
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>>>> I think the Bible is very reliable. �The Jews were very meticulous as
>>>> far as preserving ancient writings. �For instance, the Dead Sea
>>>> scrolls of Isaiah are a good example of how accurately the Bible was
>>>> translated.
>>> The Bible was very accurately transcribed - for humans. They did an
>>> amazing job. Not a perfect job, there are lots of differences between
>>> the early versions we have, but not bad for a bunch of people.
>>> It's the content that I find even less reliable though, that's what I
>>> was driving at, and I think you know that.
>>> Much reported as history in the Bible simply never happened. No global
>>> flood, no special creation, no exodus...
>> Yes, copying a mistake faithfully does not make the mistake go away.- Hide quoted text -
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> Well, that is something atheists have a lot of experience with.

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