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Article #13855Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:33
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:33
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 6, 5:03 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 6, 2:16 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 6, 1:00 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:53�am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:62956527-c824-415d-93ab-cdbf47127a02@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 9:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> For the umpteenth time, we cannot tell Jesus anything. >>>>>>>>> If he existed at all, he died nearly 2,000 years ago. >>>>>>>>> Apart from an alleged brief visit shortly afterward, he hasn't been seen >>>>>>>>> since. >>>>>>>>> How can we tell him anything, huh? >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>> Well, it is called prayer. �Christians are commanded to pray. >>>>>>>> ==================== >>>>>>>> And you're sure your prayer gets through ... even though no-one in the >>>>>>>> history of Christian prayer has ever answered. �You know, if I dial a number >>>>>>>> and get no connection, I may try a few more times, but sooner or later I >>>>>>>> realise that there's no phone at the other end .... >>>>>>> Well, mine get answered. What made you think they were not? >>>>>> Shall we do some double-blind tests? Would you like to submit that claim >>>>>> to scrutiny? It would really help me believe, because theists are always >>>>>> talking about answered prayer, and mine were met with nothing but stony >>>>>> silence.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth >>>>> to all men liberally, and upbraideth not, and it shall be given him. >>>>> 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth >>>>> is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed, >>>>> 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the >>>>> Lord. >>>> I wouldn't expect God to start taking *my* calls now after having >>>> ignored them entirely for five years, but *you* still have faith. We >>>> could test the efficacy of *your* prayers. >>>> Feel up to it? :-)- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Why do you want to test my prayers? >> So you'd be able to back up your claim that prayer (yours, mine, >> anyone's) is actually answered.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > According to scripture unless a prayer is asked in faith it will not > be answered. So? You have faith, right?
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