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Article #13866Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:48
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:48
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BuddyThunder wrote: > rbwinn wrote: >> On Jul 6, 12:58 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>- >> >> Well, look spirit up in the dictionary. If you do not believe in >> spirit, then there is no way to explain it to you. > > I looked it up and found lots of vague notions of intermediaries between > body and soul. That kind of nonsense. > > So there is no meaningful definition of "spirit" in reality? You made a > positive claim about my "spirit", then choosing to define it in terms of > itself. A kind of "spirit is spirit, what's wrong with you" argument. > I'm none the wiser as to what you're actually referring to. The mediaeval understanding of spirit,was essentially what we today would call the mind, as distinct and somewhat independent of, the body. The concept of the 'objective observer' grew out of this particular worldview. Science owes religious philosophy that much, at least.
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