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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 6, 2:52 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Jul 5, 3:17 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> >> > On Jul 5, 3:17 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> >> >> > On Jul 4, 9:29�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> >> >> >> >> Sin is what you think it is.
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>> >> >> >> > I think sin is wilful disobedience to God.
>> >> >> >> > Robert B. Winn
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>> >> >> >> In that case, I've never committed a sin.
>> >> >> >> God has never personally told me to do anything, so how is it
>> >> >> >> possible
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> me to disobey him?
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>> >> >> > Well, Joesf Stalin said something very similar when he killed 12
>> >> >> > million people. Atheists justify anything they do by saying there 
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > no God.
>> >> >> > Robert B. Winn
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>> >> >> I don't think you are following the point here.
>> >> >> I didn't say that there is no God, I said that God has never
>> >> >> personally
>> >> >> asked me to do or not do anything and it would therefore be 
>> >> >> impossible
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> me to wilfully disobey him if I have never once received an order 
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> request
>> >> >> from him.
>> >> >> So do you agree that I am sinless, by your definition of sin?

>> >> > No, the only one who was without sin was Jesus Christ.
>> >> > Robert B. winn
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>> >> And me, apparently.
>> >> Oh, yeah, and the Virgin Mary too, I believe.(not)

>> > 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
>> > the truth is not in us.
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>> > Robert B. Winn
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>> It wasn't me who was saying it- you were the one who was claiming that I 
>> was
>> sinless by YOUR definition of sin.
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>> --
>> Steve O
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> My definition of sin was willful disobedience of God.

Exactly!
I have never, ever once disobeyed God in my entire life.
I've disobeyed parents, employers, teachers... even the wife once or twice, 
but I have never once disobeyed God, just like I have never disobeyed a 
Cornish tap dancer with one glass eye and a pink tutu.
Having never met either God or the tap dancer or ever having held any 
discussion with either of them directly it would be impossible for me to 
disobey them at all.
Neither of them have ever directly issued any instructions for me to obey.

> Bearing false witness about me would fall under the category of willful 
> disobedience
> of God.
> Robert B. Winn

No it wouldn't, God has never once instructed or ordered me to never lie to 
you, or anyone else for that matter, therefore I have never disobeyed him.
Prove me wrong.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence