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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#13880
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:19
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 6, 1:56 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 5, 3:17 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:10ce2a97-5663-43dd-bb2e-86940cdbecd7@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:17 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:58898c9c-aad4-4d16-8b51-5ee0f0b2a835@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 9:29�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:2491245c-d5d7-4548-a60c-460baa59d9b4@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Sin is what you think it is.
>>>>>>>>> I think sin is wilful disobedience to God.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> In that case, I've never committed a sin.
>>>>>>>> God has never personally told me to do anything, so how is it possible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> me to disobey him?
>>>>>>> Well, Joesf Stalin said something very similar when he killed 12
>>>>>>> million people. Atheists justify anything they do by saying there is
>>>>>>> no God.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> I don't think you are following the point here.
>>>>>> I didn't say that there is no God, I said that God has never personally
>>>>>> asked me to do or not do anything and it would therefore be impossible
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> me to wilfully disobey him if I have never once received an order or
>>>>>> request
>>>>>> from him.
>>>>>> So do you agree that I am sinless, by your definition of sin?
>>>>> No, the only one who was without sin was Jesus Christ.
>>>>> Robert B. winn
>>>> And me, apparently.
>>>> Oh, yeah, and the Virgin Mary too, I believe.(not)
>>>> --
>>>> Steve O
>>>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
>>>> B.A.A.W.A.
>>>> Convicted by Earthquack,
>>>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> 1 John 1:8   If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
>>> the truth is not in us.
>> Right. So we are all going to hell willy nilly. Why bother with trying
>> not to?.
>>
> You will not like hell.  That is what seems odd about atheists.  They
> can seem like rational beings except in one instance.  If you were to
> give them a choice between going to Yellowstone national Park or going
> to the Winslow, Arizona, city dump, most of them would choose to go to
> Yellowstone Park.  But if you give them a choice between heaven and
> hell, they all say they do not want to go to heaven.  Some of them
> might object to going to hell, but they all choose to not go to
> heaven.

Your mind is so... poisoned.
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