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Article #13937Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:58
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:58
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On Jul 6, 5:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 6, 11:07 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 6, 1:01�am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> Smiler wrote: > >>>>> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > >>>>>news:i2nt649tvtdd1sofkag02co4c9n4s1vt6e@4ax.com... > >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:26:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 8:42?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Alex W. wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable > >>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > >>>>>>>>>>>> =========== > >>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart > >>>>>>>>>>>> choice is > >>>>>>>>>>>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... > >>>>>>>>>>> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim > >>>>>>>>>>> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > >>>>>>>>>> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, is. > >>>>>>>>>>> ========== > >>>>>>>>>>> Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) > >>>>>>>>>>> worshipped > >>>>>>>>>>> ... or not, as the case may be.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Sin is wilful disobedience of God. ?Repentance is confessing and > >>>>>>>>> forsaking sin. > >>>>>>>> As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us to do > >>>>>>>> anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> So once an atheist enters into sin, there is no turning back from > >>>>>>> it. � I guess that was why Josef Stalin killed 12 million people. > >>>>>> God is still a human invention. Clearly the fear of God does not stop > >>>>>> you from lying in almost every post. > >>>>>> I will not respond to you for a while, you have become far too nasty in > >>>>>> your discussions here. > >>>>> That's exactly what he wants! > >>>>> If everyone ignored him, he would be free to spread his lies without > >>>>> opposition. > >>>>> The answer is to fight his lies, nastyness and stupidity with the reply it > >>>>> deserves...Ho! <whack>. > >>>> If there's something worth a response, I will respond. If it's nothing > >>>> but silly lies, unevidenced assertions or "atheists are Nazis" nonsense, > >>>> then the whacking will come.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> I believe that atheists are exactly like Nazis. That has been my > >>> experience with them. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> I believe fundamental christians are just like Nazis. > > >> they both know they are justified in anything, because they are > >> completely right (wing?) > >> .- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Not me. I am registered as an independent voter. > > You can be right-wing without being aligned with any major political > party. I'm a leftie, but I'm not a member of the Greens or the Labour > Party here in NZ.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You do not understand. I believe that all political parties are pretty much the same. They are all bad government. Robert B. Winn
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