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Article #13951Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:41
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:41
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On Jul 7, 1:25 am, rich...@rmeredith.co.uk (Richard Meredith) wrote: > In article <dv3v641nlblt9lrl26j45pnb5v085e8...@4ax.com>, > > lu...@nofreelunch.us (Free Lunch) wrote: > > >Atheists, theists - what's the difference? They're both equally > > dogmatic > > >that what they happen to believe is the one and only version of the > > truth, > > >despite a complete inability to prove it - or even put up a decent > > set of > > >repeatable and verifiable evidence that supports their position. > > > What rubbish. Atheists say they don't believe in gods. The lack of > > evidence for gods is sufficient not to believe in them. It is not > > necessary for atheists to prove that gods do not exist to not believe > > in > > them. Do you believe in Thor because you cannot prove he does not > > exist? > > I don't believe in Thor but that doesn't give me any authority to insist > on his nonexistence to someone who does: if someone does, or claims to, > that's their business and none of mine. The atheists who have the marked > similarity to theists are not those who happen not to share the beliefs > of the theists, but are content to let them believe whatever they want to, > but those who get in longwinded, dogmatic and frequently ill-tempered > arguments about who is right, despite neither side having any real > evidence either that they are right or that their opponent is wrong. Atheists are those who don't believe in a god. This is not the same as saying they believe there are no gods. Atheists (generally) don't go around pushing their beliefs on others, for the main fact that atheism is the lack of belief. Some do try to educate people away from religion, but that's not atheism per se. As far as this discussion is concerned, you will notice that it is taking place in alt.atheism, and it's basically a case of atheists not liking to put up with theistic crap on their home turf. We don't care if you believe in god or thor or kali. We care if you try BSing to us about it. Al
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