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Article #13956Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:56
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:56
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 5, 3:17 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:10ce2a97-5663-43dd-bb2e-86940cdbecd7@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 5, 3:17 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:58898c9c-aad4-4d16-8b51-5ee0f0b2a835@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Jul 4, 9:29�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:2491245c-d5d7-4548-a60c-460baa59d9b4@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> Sin is what you think it is. >>>>>>> I think sin is wilful disobedience to God. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> In that case, I've never committed a sin. >>>>>> God has never personally told me to do anything, so how is it possible >>>>>> for >>>>>> me to disobey him? >>>>> Well, Joesf Stalin said something very similar when he killed 12 >>>>> million people. Atheists justify anything they do by saying there is >>>>> no God. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> I don't think you are following the point here. >>>> I didn't say that there is no God, I said that God has never personally >>>> asked me to do or not do anything and it would therefore be impossible >>>> for >>>> me to wilfully disobey him if I have never once received an order or >>>> request >>>> from him. >>>> So do you agree that I am sinless, by your definition of sin? >>> No, the only one who was without sin was Jesus Christ. >>> Robert B. winn >> And me, apparently. >> Oh, yeah, and the Virgin Mary too, I believe.(not) >> >> -- >> Steve O >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >> B.A.A.W.A. >> Convicted by Earthquack, >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and > the truth is not in us. > Right. So we are all going to hell willy nilly. Why bother with trying not to?. > Robert B. Winn
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