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Article #13959Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:7540b7ce-8632-44ca-a5ed-5e9cfe084e17@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 5, 3:17 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:10ce2a97-5663-43dd-bb2e-86940cdbecd7@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jul 5, 3:17 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:58898c9c-aad4-4d16-8b51-5ee0f0b2a835@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Jul 4, 9:29�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >>news:2491245c-d5d7-4548-a60c-460baa59d9b4@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> Sin is what you think it is. >> >> >> >> > I think sin is wilful disobedience to God. >> >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> In that case, I've never committed a sin. >> >> >> God has never personally told me to do anything, so how is it >> >> >> possible >> >> >> for >> >> >> me to disobey him? >> >> >> > Well, Joesf Stalin said something very similar when he killed 12 >> >> > million people. Atheists justify anything they do by saying there is >> >> > no God. >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> I don't think you are following the point here. >> >> I didn't say that there is no God, I said that God has never >> >> personally >> >> asked me to do or not do anything and it would therefore be impossible >> >> for >> >> me to wilfully disobey him if I have never once received an order or >> >> request >> >> from him. >> >> So do you agree that I am sinless, by your definition of sin? >> > No, the only one who was without sin was Jesus Christ. >> > Robert B. winn >> >> And me, apparently. >> Oh, yeah, and the Virgin Mary too, I believe.(not) > 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and > the truth is not in us. > > Robert B. Winn It wasn't me who was saying it- you were the one who was claiming that I was sinless by YOUR definition of sin. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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