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Article #1396Re: Converting the masses
From: Mcirvin
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:01
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:01
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matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) writes: >In article <1992Jul22.193837.18095@sfu.ca> palmer@sfu.ca (Leigh Palmer) writes: >> "Mass" as you use it >> is equal to neither inertial nor gravitational mass as those terms apply to >> any system more complicated than a particle at rest! >There is, however, *nothing* which is equal to either inertial or >gravitational mass for a relativistic body. >That is: I define the inertial mass of a body as the "m" appearing in >the equation > F = m a, (1) [...] >I believe that these definitions are customary; I don't know what >other meaning could be attached to the phrases "inertial mass" or >"gravitational mass." Wellll, if you define F as dp/dt instead, and then define inertial mass by the formula p = mv, then the total energy (or "relativistic mass") *does* become exactly the "inertial mass." But I still don't think this should be used in physics classes. As for gravitational mass, I agree with you there: there really isn't any such thing in the context of GR, unless you want to define it trivially as the "inertial mass" defined above because acceleration is independent of mass-- but that's hardly the best way to look at it, though it's the language that often gets used. -- Matt McIrvin mcirvin@husc.harvard.edu Long live short .sigs
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