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Article #13964Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Free Lunch
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:34
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:34
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote in alt.atheism: >Smiler wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message >> news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) >>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that >>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus >>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. >>>>>>>>>>>> ?They >>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. >>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as >>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make >>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. >>>>>>>>>>> At least >>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! >>>>>>>>>>> TLA >>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were >>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. >>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula? >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was >>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and >>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge >>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle. >>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither. >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who >>>>>> decides who the apostles will be. >>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come >>>>> along >>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this >>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them' >>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that. >>>>> I think you should study circular logic. >>>>> Like >>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God. >>>>> Everything I say is therefore True. >>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it. >>>>> Matthew and John were apostles. >>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples. >>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or >>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their >>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no >>>>>> standing in the church. >>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church? >>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church. >>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind >>>>> heart >>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, >>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no >>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever. >>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well. >>>>> Sucker. >>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry? >>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient >>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized >>> a lot longer, and is called Europe. >>> >>> I don't you could even name one European politician. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Adolf Hitler was a European politician. So was Josef Stalin. >> Robert B. Winn >> >> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct. >> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia. >> > >Actually 100% of Russia is technically in europe. 80% of the USSR was in >asia however. Russia will be unhappy to find out that they have lost Siberia.
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