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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#13964
From: Free Lunch
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:34
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>Smiler wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
>> news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?They
>>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as 
>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. 
>>>>>>>>>>> At least
>>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were
>>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in 
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was
>>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
>>>>>> decides who the apostles will be.
>>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come 
>>>>> along
>>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
>>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>>>>> I think you should study circular logic.
>>>>> Like
>>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
>>>>> Everything I say is therefore True.
>>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>>>>> Matthew and John were apostles.
>>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples.
>>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
>>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
>>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no
>>>>>> standing in the church.
>>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
>>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind 
>>>>> heart
>>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
>>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
>>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>>>>> Sucker.
>>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry?
>>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient
>>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized
>>> a lot longer, and is called Europe.
>>>
>>> I don't you could even name one European politician.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> 
>> Adolf Hitler was a European politician.   So was Josef Stalin.
>> Robert B. Winn
>> 
>> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct.
>> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia.
>> 
>
>Actually 100% of Russia is technically in europe. 80% of the USSR was in 
>asia however.

Russia will be unhappy to find out that they have lost Siberia.
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From: Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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