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Article #13966Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:04
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:04
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On Jul 6, 12:57 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 4, 8:37�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Jul 4, 11:32 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2:57 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an > >>>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not > >>>>>>>>>>> worth considering. > >>>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. ?If you think He is > >>>>>>>>>> not, ?go ahead and try to prove it. > >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true. > >>>>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get > >>>>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish. > >>>>>>> So? I have built several earthen ramps. > >>>>>>> Am I then God? > >>>>>>>> Atheists do not believe in the earthen ramp. > >>>>>>> well firstly that is false, because I do believe in earthen ramps, > >>>>>>> having built many, and I am an atheist. > >>>>>>> And secondly what has the fact that �person B may or may not believe > >>>>>>> statement X, have to do with the existence, or not, of personality Z? > >>>>>> God did not build the earthen ramp. �The Assyrian army did. �God would > >>>>>> have preferred that they did not build it and had left the city of > >>>>>> Lachish and its inhabitants alone. > >>>>> Are you saying that God was powerless to stop them? > >>>> The bible contains enormous mistakes to glorify god yet plainly > >>>> telling us that god is a useless being. > >>>> The early Jews who wrote it were not educated, or might be drunk. Yes, > >>>> more drunk than wake.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> Well, as you say, if you think God is a useless being, then you will > >>> choose to be with the beings you think of as being useful, other > >>> atheists. > >> So you concede there are many mistakes or untruths in the Bible then?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Why does it depend on me? The Bible is what it is. If you do not > > like the Bible, read something else. > > No answer? I just wanted to know how reliable you thought the Bible was. > I know it to be full of errors and distortions, just wondered what your > position on it was. You seem to think it better than other sacred texts > for some reason.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think the Bible is very reliable. The Jews were very meticulous as far as preserving ancient writings. For instance, the Dead Sea scrolls of Isaiah are a good example of how accurately the Bible was translated. Robert B. Winn
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