Article View: sci.physics
Article #13970Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:13
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:13
117 lines
7202 bytes
7202 bytes
On Jul 6, 1:04 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 5, 5:53�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > >>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus > >>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. > >>>>>>>>>>>> ?They > >>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. > >>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as > >>>>>>>>>>> many > >>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make > >>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. > >>>>>>>>>>> At least > >>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! > >>>>>>>>>>> TLA > >>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were > >>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. > >>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in > >>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula? > >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was > >>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and > >>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ. > >>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge > >>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle. > >>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither. > >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who > >>>>>> decides who the apostles will be. > >>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come > >>>>> along > >>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this > >>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them' > >>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that. > >>>>> I think you should study circular logic. > >>>>> Like > >>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God. > >>>>> Everything I say is therefore True. > >>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it. > >>>>> Matthew and John were apostles. > >>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples. > >>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or > >>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their > >>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no > >>>>>> standing in the church. > >>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church? > >>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church. > >>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind > >>>>> heart > >>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, > >>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no > >>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever. > >>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well. > >>>>> Sucker. > >>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry? > >>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient > >>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized > >>> a lot longer, and is called Europe. > >>> I don't you could even name one European politician. > >>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >>> - Show quoted text - > >> Adolf Hitler was a European politician. � So was Josef Stalin. > >> Robert B. Winn > > >> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct. > >> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia. > > >> Smiler, > >> The godless one > >> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Mao Tse Tung was an Asian politician. > > Neil Young is a Canadian musician. > > Hey, this is FUN!! :-)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I thought you said I did not have a sense of humor. Robert B. Winn
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<c66de206-df86-4224-a3d1-d736150c85eb@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mailReferences:
<48581d68$1@clear.net.nz> <1215085979.4877.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <93dde3ad-a17a-421e-b5d9-f5f2f590f84d@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <TdSdnQsOQNcMavHVRVnygwA@bt.com> <448e2934-cf43-45b9-b657-5ccc5b8a75ad@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1215102234.8820.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <1ce20740-bf1d-4df6-bf65-a2d222afad02@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <1215114144.2689.1@proxy02.news.clara.net> <2d10d947-9cd3-444f-80c2-c31facc8a340@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1215164769.22790.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <50c231d8-8d87-4c23-ac08-82c779e93e78@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> <1215193165.30385.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6IUbk.144086$312.97303@newsfe12.ams2> <41f2d34d-9eec-49f3-ad5b-2e71433e3973@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <48707c90$1@clear.net.nz>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 117 Message-ID: <c66de206-df86-4224-a3d1-d736150c85eb@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> References: <48581d68$1@clear.net.nz> <1215085979.4877.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <93dde3ad-a17a-421e-b5d9-f5f2f590f84d@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <TdSdnQsOQNcMavHVRVnygwA@bt.com> <448e2934-cf43-45b9-b657-5ccc5b8a75ad@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1215102234.8820.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <1ce20740-bf1d-4df6-bf65-a2d222afad02@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <1215114144.2689.1@proxy02.news.clara.net> <2d10d947-9cd3-444f-80c2-c31facc8a340@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1215164769.22790.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <50c231d8-8d87-4c23-ac08-82c779e93e78@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> <1215193165.30385.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6IUbk.144086$312.97303@newsfe12.ams2> <41f2d34d-9eec-49f3-ad5b-2e71433e3973@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <48707c90$1@clear.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1215353595 18988 127.0.0.1 (6 Jul 2008 14:13:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=205.188.117.9; posting-account=i6vpvwoAAABRbNds_JrzhNT-NaeHIrDG User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/1.1.1 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.1 spider-dtc-tg10.proxy.aol.com[CDBC70CA] (Prism/1.2.1), HTTP/1.1 cache-dtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7509] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])