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Article #13972Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:23
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:23
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On Jul 6, 1:56 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 5, 3:17 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:10ce2a97-5663-43dd-bb2e-86940cdbecd7@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Jul 5, 3:17 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:58898c9c-aad4-4d16-8b51-5ee0f0b2a835@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> On Jul 4, 9:29�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:2491245c-d5d7-4548-a60c-460baa59d9b4@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>> Sin is what you think it is. > >>>>>>> I think sin is wilful disobedience to God. > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>> In that case, I've never committed a sin. > >>>>>> God has never personally told me to do anything, so how is it possible > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> me to disobey him? > >>>>> Well, Joesf Stalin said something very similar when he killed 12 > >>>>> million people. Atheists justify anything they do by saying there is > >>>>> no God. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> I don't think you are following the point here. > >>>> I didn't say that there is no God, I said that God has never personally > >>>> asked me to do or not do anything and it would therefore be impossible > >>>> for > >>>> me to wilfully disobey him if I have never once received an order or > >>>> request > >>>> from him. > >>>> So do you agree that I am sinless, by your definition of sin? > >>> No, the only one who was without sin was Jesus Christ. > >>> Robert B. winn > >> And me, apparently. > >> Oh, yeah, and the Virgin Mary too, I believe.(not) > > >> -- > >> Steve O > >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > >> B.A.A.W.A. > >> Convicted by Earthquack, > >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and > > the truth is not in us. > > Right. So we are all going to hell willy nilly. Why bother with trying > not to?. > You will not like hell. That is what seems odd about atheists. They can seem like rational beings except in one instance. If you were to give them a choice between going to Yellowstone national Park or going to the Winslow, Arizona, city dump, most of them would choose to go to Yellowstone Park. But if you give them a choice between heaven and hell, they all say they do not want to go to heaven. Some of them might object to going to hell, but they all choose to not go to heaven. Robert B. Winn
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