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Article #13981Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:05
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:05
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Free Lunch wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Smiler wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. >>>>>>>>>>>>> ?They >>>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as >>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make >>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. >>>>>>>>>>>> At least >>>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! >>>>>>>>>>>> TLA >>>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were >>>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. >>>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula? >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was >>>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and >>>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge >>>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle. >>>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who >>>>>>> decides who the apostles will be. >>>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come >>>>>> along >>>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this >>>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them' >>>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that. >>>>>> I think you should study circular logic. >>>>>> Like >>>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God. >>>>>> Everything I say is therefore True. >>>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it. >>>>>> Matthew and John were apostles. >>>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples. >>>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or >>>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their >>>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no >>>>>>> standing in the church. >>>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church? >>>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church. >>>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind >>>>>> heart >>>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, >>>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no >>>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever. >>>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well. >>>>>> Sucker. >>>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry? >>>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient >>>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized >>>> a lot longer, and is called Europe. >>>> >>>> I don't you could even name one European politician. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Adolf Hitler was a European politician. So was Josef Stalin. >>> Robert B. Winn >>> >>> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct. >>> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia. >>> >> Actually 100% of Russia is technically in europe. 80% of the USSR was in >> asia however. > > Russia will be unhappy to find out that they have lost Siberia. Siberia is no more Russia than Scotland is england.
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