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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#13981
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:05
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Free Lunch wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
> wrote in alt.atheism:
> 
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> At least
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were
>>>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in 
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was
>>>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>>>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
>>>>>>> decides who the apostles will be.
>>>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come 
>>>>>> along
>>>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
>>>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>>>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>>>>>> I think you should study circular logic.
>>>>>> Like
>>>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
>>>>>> Everything I say is therefore True.
>>>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>>>>>> Matthew and John were apostles.
>>>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples.
>>>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
>>>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
>>>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no
>>>>>>> standing in the church.
>>>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>>>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
>>>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind 
>>>>>> heart
>>>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
>>>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
>>>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>>>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>>>>>> Sucker.
>>>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry?
>>>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient
>>>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized
>>>> a lot longer, and is called Europe.
>>>>
>>>> I don't you could even name one European politician.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Adolf Hitler was a European politician.   So was Josef Stalin.
>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>
>>> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct.
>>> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia.
>>>
>> Actually 100% of Russia is technically in europe. 80% of the USSR was in 
>> asia however.
> 
> Russia will be unhappy to find out that they have lost Siberia.

Siberia is no more Russia than Scotland is england.
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