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Article #14005Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:00
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:00
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On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 4, 8:37�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Jul 4, 11:32 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>> in alt.atheism: > >>>> On Jul 4, 2:57 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an > >>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not > >>>>>>>>> worth considering. > >>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. ?If you think He is > >>>>>>>> not, ?go ahead and try to prove it. > >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true. > >>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get > >>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish. > >>>>> So? I have built several earthen ramps. > >>>>> Am I then God? > >>>>>> Atheists do not believe in the earthen ramp. > >>>>> well firstly that is false, because I do believe in earthen ramps, > >>>>> having built many, and I am an atheist. > >>>>> And secondly what has the fact that �person B may or may not believe > >>>>> statement X, have to do with the existence, or not, of personality Z? > >>>> God did not build the earthen ramp. �The Assyrian army did. �God would > >>>> have preferred that they did not build it and had left the city of > >>>> Lachish and its inhabitants alone. > >>> Are you saying that God was powerless to stop them? > >> The bible contains enormous mistakes to glorify god yet plainly > >> telling us that god is a useless being. > >> The early Jews who wrote it were not educated, or might be drunk. Yes, > >> more drunk than wake.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, as you say, if you think God is a useless being, then you will > > choose to be with the beings you think of as being useful, other > > atheists. > > So you concede there are many mistakes or untruths in the Bible then?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why does it depend on me? The Bible is what it is. If you do not like the Bible, read something else. Robert B. Winn
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