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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#14014
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:04
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 5, 5:53�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?They
>>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as
>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers.
>>>>>>>>>>> At least
>>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were
>>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was
>>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
>>>>>> decides who the apostles will be.
>>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come
>>>>> along
>>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
>>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>>>>> I think you should study circular logic.
>>>>> Like
>>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
>>>>> Everything I say is therefore True.
>>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>>>>> Matthew and John were apostles.
>>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples.
>>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
>>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
>>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no
>>>>>> standing in the church.
>>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
>>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind
>>>>> heart
>>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
>>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
>>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>>>>> Sucker.
>>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry?
>>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient
>>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized
>>> a lot longer, and is called Europe.
>>> I don't you could even name one European politician.
>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> Adolf Hitler was a European politician. � So was Josef Stalin.
>> Robert B. Winn
>>
>> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct.
>> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia.
>>
>> Smiler,
>> The godless one
>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Mao Tse Tung was an Asian politician.

Neil Young is a Canadian musician.

Hey, this is FUN!! :-)
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