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Article #14017Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:52
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:52
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Smiler wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message > news:144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) >>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus >>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. >>>>>>>>>>> ?They >>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. >>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make >>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. >>>>>>>>>> At least >>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! >>>>>>>>>> TLA >>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were >>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. >>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula? >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was >>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and >>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ. >>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge >>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle. >>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who >>>>> decides who the apostles will be. >>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come >>>> along >>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this >>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them' >>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that. >>>> I think you should study circular logic. >>>> Like >>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God. >>>> Everything I say is therefore True. >>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it. >>>> Matthew and John were apostles. >>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples. >>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or >>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their >>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no >>>>> standing in the church. >>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church? >>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church. >>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind >>>> heart >>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, >>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no >>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever. >>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well. >>>> Sucker. >>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry? >> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient >> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized >> a lot longer, and is called Europe. >> >> I don't you could even name one European politician. >> >> >> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Adolf Hitler was a European politician. So was Josef Stalin. > Robert B. Winn > > Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct. > Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia. > Actually 100% of Russia is technically in europe. 80% of the USSR was in asia however. > Smiler, > The godless one > a.a.# 2279 > >
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!newsfeed.esat.net!news.clara.net!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!proxy00.news.clara.net Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100 From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? References: <48581d68$1@clear.net.nz> <486c4bcc$1@clear.net.nz> <6d35k3Fjp5bU1@mid.individual.net> <1215083338.19681.0@proxy00.news.clara.net> <3ff65f37-3318-4efa-9280-69bb83c72385@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1215085979.4877.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <93dde3ad-a17a-421e-b5d9-f5f2f590f84d@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <TdSdnQsOQNcMavHVRVnygwA@bt.com> <448e2934-cf43-45b9-b657-5ccc5b8a75ad@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1215102234.8820.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <1ce20740-bf1d-4df6-bf65-a2d222afad02@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <1215114144.2689.1@proxy02.news.clara.net> <2d10d947-9cd3-444f-80c2-c31facc8a340@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1215164769.22790.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <50c231d8-8d87-4c23-ac08-82c779e93e78@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> <1215193165.30385.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <144d9977-1207-4745-981c-b0a2d9be87d5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6IUbk.144086$312.97303@newsfe12.ams2> In-Reply-To: <6IUbk.144086$312.97303@newsfe12.ams2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@clara.net (please include full headers) X-Trace: 4102c0305558d5c6f60860ea8f266c8466b489c061647a04906a74c0487087e8 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100 Message-ID: <1215334376.26273.2@proxy00.news.clara.net> Lines: 97