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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:52
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Smiler wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. 
>>>>>>>>>>> ?They
>>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as 
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. 
>>>>>>>>>> At least
>>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were
>>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in 
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was
>>>>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
>>>>> decides who the apostles will be.
>>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come 
>>>> along
>>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
>>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>>>> I think you should study circular logic.
>>>> Like
>>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
>>>> Everything I say is therefore True.
>>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>>>> Matthew and John were apostles.
>>>>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples.
>>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
>>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
>>>>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no
>>>>> standing in the church.
>>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
>>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind 
>>>> heart
>>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
>>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
>>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>>>> Sucker.
>>> I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry?
>> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient
>> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized
>> a lot longer, and is called Europe.
>>
>> I don't you could even name one European politician.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Adolf Hitler was a European politician.   So was Josef Stalin.
> Robert B. Winn
> 
> Wow! You're getting better. 60% correct.
> Clue...80% of Russia is in Asia.
> 

Actually 100% of Russia is technically in europe. 80% of the USSR was in 
asia however.


> Smiler,
> The godless one
> a.a.# 2279 
> 
> 
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:52:56 +0100
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