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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:29
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On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 4, 7:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 3, 10:59 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > > > >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in
> > > > > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell.
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> > > > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is
> > > > > > to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality ....
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> > > > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim
> > > > > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent.
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> > > > > Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped
> > > > > ... or not, as the case may be.
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> > > > Well, there is no sin in heaven.  Maybe that is why atheists do not
> > > > want to go there.
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge !
> > > 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know there
> > > is no sin there?
> > > 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to
> > > heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been
> > cleansed of sin.  All atheists I have conversed with have told me they
> > do not want to enter heaven.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> #1. Yes, but a person cleansed of sin entering heaven can again commit
> sin, right?
>     For this, your Jesus said nothing....how are you going to account
> for that?
> #2. Why would your Jesus allowed for sin to be existed in human, in
> the first place?
> #3. There is no heaven, why would atheists want to enter anything?
>     If there is a heaven, it be;long to you loons, nothing to do with
> atheists. This is
>     just like you don't simply allow an African to enter US to be its
> citizen, unless
>     qualified or needed.
> I don't think you are capable to defend. Straight to the point, please.- Hide quoted text -
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Since atheists say they do not want to enter heaven, it is all
irrelevant.  They will be given what they say they want.
Robert B. winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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