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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#14047
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:38
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2:44 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 4, 3:36 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 4, 12:07 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b5ef084b-b578-47aa-b9bf-1285e1588579@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an
>>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> worth considering.
>>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. �If you think He is
>>>>>>>>> not, �go ahead and try to prove it.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true.
>>>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get
>>>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish.  Atheists do not believe in the earthen
>>>>>>> ramp.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> Good grief, here we go again.
>>>>>> The earthen ramp is not proof of God, it is simply proof that a mound of
>>>>>> earth exists.
>>>>>> If you're going back to this Earthen ramp/tunnel crap again I'll have to
>>>>>> plonk you.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
>>>>>> B.A.A.W.A.
>>>>>> Convicted by Earthquack,
>>>>>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
>>>>>> "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the
>>>>>> face, you can see a burnt tortilla"- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> I think that would be wonderful.
>>>> What would you pay for it? I could whip one up for you. I'd make it with
>>>> Judas' image, he gets such a bad rap for someone who was utterly vital
>>>> to the doctrine.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Utterly vital?  How was Judas Iscariot utterly vital?
>> No betrayal, no salvation for anyone post blood scrifice. He's a hero,
>> not a villain!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Salvation is through Jesus Christ, not Judas Iscariot.  If you are
> seeking to be saved through Judas Iscariot, you will be sadly
> disappointed.

There's no evidence to support either assertion, I just think it's weird 
to demonise someone who's role in the story is so vital.

Read the Gospel of Judas for an alternative view. Much more humane.
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