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Article #14047Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:38
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:38
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 5, 2:44 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 4, 3:36 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 4, 12:07 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:b5ef084b-b578-47aa-b9bf-1285e1588579@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an >>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> worth considering. >>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. �If you think He is >>>>>>>>> not, �go ahead and try to prove it. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true. >>>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get >>>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish. Atheists do not believe in the earthen >>>>>>> ramp. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Good grief, here we go again. >>>>>> The earthen ramp is not proof of God, it is simply proof that a mound of >>>>>> earth exists. >>>>>> If you're going back to this Earthen ramp/tunnel crap again I'll have to >>>>>> plonk you. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Steve O >>>>>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >>>>>> B.A.A.W.A. >>>>>> Convicted by Earthquack, >>>>>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >>>>>> "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the >>>>>> face, you can see a burnt tortilla"- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> I think that would be wonderful. >>>> What would you pay for it? I could whip one up for you. I'd make it with >>>> Judas' image, he gets such a bad rap for someone who was utterly vital >>>> to the doctrine.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Utterly vital? How was Judas Iscariot utterly vital? >> No betrayal, no salvation for anyone post blood scrifice. He's a hero, >> not a villain!- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Salvation is through Jesus Christ, not Judas Iscariot. If you are > seeking to be saved through Judas Iscariot, you will be sadly > disappointed. There's no evidence to support either assertion, I just think it's weird to demonise someone who's role in the story is so vital. Read the Gospel of Judas for an alternative view. Much more humane.
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