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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#14051
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:46
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 7:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 3, 10:59 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in
>>>>>>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell.
>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is
>>>>>>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality ....
>>>>>> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim
>>>>>> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent.
>>>>>> ==========
>>>>>> Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped
>>>>>> ... or not, as the case may be.
>>>>> Well, there is no sin in heaven.  Maybe that is why atheists do not
>>>>> want to go there.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge !
>>>> 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know there
>>>> is no sin there?
>>>> 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to
>>>> heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been
>>> cleansed of sin.  All atheists I have conversed with have told me they
>>> do not want to enter heaven.
>>> Robert B. Winn
>> #1. Yes, but a person cleansed of sin entering heaven can again commit
>> sin, right?
>>     For this, your Jesus said nothing....how are you going to account
>> for that?
>> #2. Why would your Jesus allowed for sin to be existed in human, in
>> the first place?
>> #3. There is no heaven, why would atheists want to enter anything?
>>     If there is a heaven, it be;long to you loons, nothing to do with
>> atheists. This is
>>     just like you don't simply allow an African to enter US to be its
>> citizen, unless
>>     qualified or needed.
>> I don't think you are capable to defend. Straight to the point, please.- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Since atheists say they do not want to enter heaven, it is all
> irrelevant.  They will be given what they say they want.

Since
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Ho! <whack>
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