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Article #14060Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:26
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:26
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On Jul 4, 8:42�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> Alex W. wrote: > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >> > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in > >> >> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > > >> >> =========== > > >> >> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is > >> >> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... > > >> > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim > >> > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > > >> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, is. > > >> > ========== > > >> > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped > >> > ... or not, as the case may be.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Sin is wilful disobedience of God. �Repentance is confessing and > >forsaking sin. > > As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us to do > anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So once an atheist enters into sin, there is no turning back from it. I guess that was why Josef Stalin killed 12 million people. Robert B. Winn
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