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Article #14066Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:47
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:47
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On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) > >>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus > >>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They > >>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. > >>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many > >>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make > >>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least > >>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! > >>>>>>>> TLA > >>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were > >>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. > >>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in it. > >>>>>> Why change a winning formula? > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was > >>>>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and > >>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ. > >>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge > >>>> was written by a disciple or apostle. > >>>> Paul was most certainly neither. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who > >>> decides who the apostles will be. > >> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come along > >> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this > >> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them' > > >> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that. > > >> I think you should study circular logic. > > >> Like > > >> I. TNP, am actuallyt God. > >> Everything I say is therefore True. > >> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it. > > >> Matthew and John were apostles. > > >>> Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples. > >>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or > >>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their > >>> standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no > >>> standing in the church. > >> Do you realise how little I care about the Church? > > > Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church. > > >> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind heart > >> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, > >> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no > >> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever. > > >> You probably believed in GW Bush as well. > > >> Sucker. > > > I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry? > > There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient > that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized > a lot longer, and is called Europe. > > I don't you could even name one European politician. > > > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Adolf Hitler was a European politician. So was Josef Stalin. Robert B. Winn
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