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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:47
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On Jul 4, 10:38 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
> >>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
> >>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They
> >>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
> >>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many
> >>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
> >>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least
> >>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
> >>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church.  Fortunately, they were
> >>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
> >>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in it.
> >>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible.  The entire Old Testament was
> >>>>> written by the Jews.  The New Testament was written by apostles and
> >>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
> >>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
> >>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
> >>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> >>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
> >>> decides who the apostles will be.
> >> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come along
> >> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
> >> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>
> >> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>
> >> I think you should study circular logic.
>
> >> Like
>
> >> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
> >> Everything I say is therefore True.
> >> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>
> >>   Matthew and John were apostles.
>
> >>> Peter, James,  and Paul were apostles.  Luke and Mark were disciples.
> >>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
> >>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
> >>> standing in the church.  Modern atheists are the ones who have no
> >>> standing in the church.
> >> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>
> > Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
>
> >> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind heart
> >> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
> >> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
> >> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>
> >> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>
> >> Sucker.
>
> > I ran against G W Bush.  What did you do, vote for John Kerry?
>
> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient
> that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized
> a lot longer, and is called Europe.
>
> I don't you could even name one European politician.
>
>
>
> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Adolf Hitler was a European politician.   So was Josef Stalin.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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